Subject	I must say
Posted by	Jackie Chan (Hibernating) on December 18, 2002 at 7:33 PM
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In Reply To	No big secret - www.carparts.com - before they got posted by YugoBernie (NoVA) on December 18, 2002 at 09:15 AM
Message	I have changed my views on the B&B. After looking at the picture of your green TT with it on, where it's half backed out of the garage... it is a GREAT looking system. I would gladly jump on the bandwagon if it weren't for two things: Price and loudness. I've never been able to find a new B&B exhaust system for under $1100, which to me, is unjustifiable when other systems will yield the exact same gains if not more at $400-$500 less. I'm not saying that it isn't worth it's price, I know it's excellent quality, I'm saying that I PERSONALLY cannot justify spending that much on an exhaust. And number two... I don't want too loud of a car. I plan on opening up the whole exhaust eventually, so I want a QUIET cat-back, becuase a full exhaust will be plenty loud no matter what cat-back I have. We need a new alternative... show me some nice looking 3.5" polished quad tips in the $600-$700 range, and I'll buy them in a second.
Follow Ups	One more exhaust question, - ownerofz 20:02:57 12/17/02 any of those will do. it's an NA. high flow not required. (n/m) - niXit 20:05:24 12/17/02 get B&B (n/m) - Snoguitar 20:12:48 12/17/02 Top end HP= HKS Hiper, B&B=crap for $$ (n/m) - Janders 20:37:10 12/17/02 2+2 (n/m) - Snoguitar 20:42:21 12/17/02 How's the Hyper sound? - Jackie Chan (Hibernating) 20:50:37 12/17/02 low pitch, V-8ish..on my NA - Janders 20:58:25 12/17/02 I will give it that is does sound better then it looks. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 21:23:14 12/17/02 You bought your exhaust for looks....sad (n/m) - Janders 21:58:26 12/17/02 Hardly - but believe what you want. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 22:36:01 12/17/02 youve obviously never seen or heard a car with b&b (n/m) - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 22:59:35 12/17/02 looks and sound= not my concern for an exhaust (n/m) - Janders 23:26:05 12/17/02 power > sound IMHO (n/m) - Janders 23:33:03 12/17/02 So just get straight pipes and be done with it. - YugoBernie (NoVA) 09:06:15 12/18/02 Hyper is NOT available for the 2+2, STFU if don't know that. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 20:51:19 12/17/02 get your panties outof your ass just cause you paid too muc - Janders 20:56:58 12/17/02 $784 SHIPPED & NEW was too much? Don't blame me if - YugoBernie (NoVA) 21:16:08 12/17/02 Good price...more than I spent. - Janders 21:50:42 12/17/02 Nobody said outperforming...B&B is not the best bang for the - Only1Z 22:58:35 12/17/02 It's not the best bang..period. (n/m) - Janders 23:30:48 12/17/02 Thanks for stating the obvious...that's WHAT I JUST SAID - Only1Z 23:37:48 12/17/02 OK, looks=you, performance=me (n/m) - Janders 00:02:06 12/18/02 Straight pipe is cheaper then HKS and flows better. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 09:07:25 12/18/02 I agree - Janders 19:52:22 12/18/02 What is the big deal? I'd rather have a much better exhaust - Only1Z 19:58:38 12/18/02 I'm calling BS. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 12:37:25 12/19/02 On what? you make me laugh (n/m) - Janders 23:24:12 12/19/02 What he's saying is this... - Only1Z 11:25:44 12/20/02 What I'm saying is this - Janders 12:56:43 12/20/02 Nope...I OWN an HKS exhaust (not a Hiper of course) - Only1Z 14:32:34 12/20/02 You are also comparing materials, aluminized steel vs. - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 23:16:07 12/17/02 I don't worry about rust,and my car isn't a civic - Janders 23:29:48 12/17/02 Damn Bernie, thats a good deal!>>> - Zster (QuickZilver) 23:47:28 12/17/02 No big secret - www.carparts.com - before they got - YugoBernie (NoVA) 09:15:48 12/18/02 I must say - Jackie Chan (Hibernating) 19:33:36 12/18/02 Man you got it bad for B&B!!Don't understand your jealousy.. (n/m) - AndrewZ 22:51:48 12/17/02 yes, you got me (n/m) - Janders 23:31:44 12/17/02 greddy SP (n/m) - Zboost 20:44:42 12/17/02 Honestly they are all about the same. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 20:50:17 12/17/02 You've tried any of them on your NA? (n/m) - Janders 20:59:38 12/17/02 I consider ANY exhaust w. similar piping to be +/- the same. - YugoBernie (NoVA) 21:19:23 12/17/02 straight pipes do not equal 90 mandrel bends - Janders 21:45:14 12/17/02 None of the exhausts he mentioned for the 2+2 have 20 - YugoBernie (NoVA) 21:48:25 12/17/02 The ones mentioned aren't the only choices - Janders 21:55:00 12/17/02 Brullen has 2+2 exhaust with bends at small angles... - not-hrz 22:19:12 12/17/02 I've never seen the bends on a Brullen. (n/m) - Janders 23:35:11 12/17/02 On a 500+ HP TTZ you may see 10 hp difference, on an NA - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 23:14:51 12/17/02 You have to fight for EVERY HP on an NA - Janders 23:27:59 12/17/02 Geez...you don't seem to get it - Only1Z 23:33:34 12/17/02 No..obviously within Reason - Janders 23:41:28 12/17/02 That's the point... - Only1Z 23:48:04 12/17/02 I'm not basing my views on the test so much as simple design - Janders 23:54:55 12/17/02 It's stainless steel and worth the money simply for that (n/m) - Only1Z 23:56:55 12/17/02 We agree! HKS=power, B&B=pretty! yay! - Janders 00:03:49 12/18/02 the pros of SS are more then just looks (n/m) - Snoguitar 03:28:45 12/18/02 Don't waste your breath - Jackie Chan (Hibernating) 19:41:32 12/18/02 Yeah...2 hp is definitely worth driving around with a B&B - Only1Z 20:00:08 12/18/02 Hey, like I said - Jackie Chan (Hibernating) 20:54:09 12/18/02 Well, I don't think that that seems to be the case - Only1Z 21:40:37 12/18/02
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